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Too soon? Prescribed information before a deposit taken

13/08/2024

Siddeeq v Alaian. K00BF465 County Court at Mayor’s and City of London County Court. HHJ Hellman. 9 August 2024 (unreported).

A County Court Circuit Judge appeal from a possession claim at Brentford County Court, on the validity of a section 21 notice due to arguments over the deposit prescribed information. The key question was whether information given by the landlord could be ‘prescribed information’ in relation to the deposit if it was given to the tenant before the deposit was paid.

The tenancy agreement on this AST was signed on 12 November 2021.  The tenancy agreement, as is common, had a section setting out various items of the ‘tenancy deposit prescribed information’  and stated the deposit value. The end statement of the agreement said that the signature was the landlord’s certification of the information, and the tenant’s confirmation of its accuracy to the best of their knowledge. A Mydeposits scheme leaflet was provided with the tenancy agreement.

The deposit was paid by the tenant on 13 November 2021. The deposit was protected on about 19 November 2021 and the deposit protection certificate provided to the tenant, although not signed by either.

So the only signature as to the accuracy of the prescribed information where those of the landlord and the tenant on the tenancy agreement, signed before the deposit was paid.

The landlord served a section 21 notice on 3 November 2022 and a possession claim via the accelerated procedure issued on 24 April 2023. A defence was served. At first instance trial the District Judge held that the prescribed information could be given before the deposit was paid. The tenant sought permission to appeal, which was granted by HHJ Luba KC.

At the appeal, HHJ Hellman allowed the appeal. On the requirements of the Prescribed Information Order 2007, the Judge held (NB counsel’s note, not approved):

Both s213(5) and (6) and Article 2 of the Prescribed Information Order all require steps in respect of the deposit after receiving the deposit. In so far as the district judge said there was “no requirement” for those steps to be taken after receiving the deposit, he erred in law. It is not contested that information was given before the defendant paid the deposit. Therefore, I am satisfied that the grounds are made out. As Mr Gannon submitted, prescribed information is defined as being provided after the deposit has been paid.

It is not sufficient that information required to be provided is just provided. It must be provided as prescribed, i.e. after the deposit has been paid.

There is a legislative steer to this effect in para 2(1)(g) of the Prescribed Information Order which provides not only that the information has been given but also the amount of the deposit paid. If information is given before the deposit is paid then it is hard to see how the landlord or tenant could in good faith certify the amount of the deposit paid. No deposit had been paid.

On the landlord’s argument that a prohibition on serving a section 21 notice did not apply so long as section 213(6)(a) Housing Act 2004 was complied with, even if done before the deposit was paid, the Judge held (again, counsels’ note, not approved):

Mr Gannon’s answer is persuasive. Section 213(6) cannot be complied with as information before the deposit is paid is not prescribed information. Prescribed information is defined as information given after the deposit is paid.

There is a legislative steer towards this construction of s215 because s215 says the notice cannot be given until such time as s213(6) is complied with. If it is not a further step would be necessary. I am satisfied that this construction of the statute and the Prescribed Information Order is clear and straightforward and best gives legislative effect to protect the deposit and deal with disputes. It sets out what needs to be done and when it needs to be done and how breaches can be remedied. A construction which allowed the provision of information prior to the deposit promotes uncertainty, for example how long can it be provided before the deposit is paid for it still to be prescribed information?

Appeal allowed.

Our thanks to Kevin Gannon of Garden Court and Haroon Sarwar of TV Edwards solicitors for the note of judgment.

Comment

This may be of relatively limited application, as it is perhaps unusual for a deposit not to be paid at least at the same time as signing the tenancy agreement, but it is an illustration of of the risks of incorporating the majority of the prescribed information into the tenancy agreement itself.

I think the Court’s interpretation of the Prescribed Information Order has to be right. The information cannot be in respect of a deposit which is hypothetical or not yet received.

So, always check the sequence of prescribed information (in whole or in part) being given and the deposit being paid.

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Giles Peaker is a solicitor and partner in the Housing and Public Law team at Anthony Gold Solicitors in South London. You can find him on Linkedin and on Bluesky. (No longer on Twitter). Known as NL round these parts.

12 Comments

  1. Neil Hickman

    This decision must be correct, with respect.
    Section 213(6) stipulates that the prescribed information must be given to the tenant “within the period of 30 days beginning with the date on which the deposit is received by the landlord”. That defines, with a clarity perhaps unusual in modern housing legislation, a window of 30 days within which the information may be given. Information given before that window starts doesn’t comply any more than notice given after it ends.

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    • Giles Peaker

      Yes, the ‘within’ is pretty categoric.

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    • Simon Tyrrell

      If a holding deposit is taken at application, and later, once references are accepted, an AST, which includes the Prescribed Information, is sent to the tenant for signature and signed by the tenant, on signing of the AST by the tenant doesn’t the holding deposit ‘convert’ to a part payment of the actual tenancy deposit, and therefore if the landlord signs the agreement and the signs and therefore ‘serves’ the prescribed information the day after the tenant, then has the landlord correctly performed his duties to serve the Prescribed Information after receiving the deposit (or part of it)?

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      • Giles Peaker

        Depends what is agreed to happen to the holding deposit, surely – if it is agreed to be taken against first month’s rent, for example. If it is taken as a payment of or towards the deposit amount, then it would count as received at the point of the entry into the tenancy and the usual rules would apply – 30 days to protect and provide PI.

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        • Simon Tyrrell

          Therefore, in this case, if the agreement (with the PI within it) had had a simple clause stating that the holding deposit would convert to a part payment of the tenancy deposit on the tenant signing and if the landlord then signed the agreement the following day the PI would have been served correctly i.e. after the deposit or a part of it had been paid? He could then simply have protected and forwarded the deposit certificate within 30 days?
          Have I got that right?

        • Giles Peaker

          This is effectively a ‘when was the deposit received’ question? I would have thought what would happen to the holding deposit should have been specified at the time the holding deposit was taken – if so then the tenancy deposit received at the point the tenant’s application accepted. I’m not sure that having it as a contractual term in the tenancy agreement works – or there would at least be a grey area as to when tenancy started/PI given/deposit received, and in what order.

          I’m not aware of any cases on this point, though, and each one would turn on their own facts anyway, so I’m not going to give it a lot of thought now.

  2. Tessa Shepperson

    Presumably also if the prescribed information is not provided in accordance with the rules tenants will be able to apply to the Court for the penalty payment. So this issue will not go away when s21 is abolished.

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    • Giles Peaker

      I would presume so, yes, if taken on the basis that PI not given at all.

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  3. David

    I have argued for years that this is the correct position , many Landlords include a bastardised version of the PI in their Tenancy Agreement rather than the PI itself and so often this is flawed, sometimes they even use a different scheme to the one they embedded in the Tenancy Agreement.

    For me it is quite simple, if you have not protected the deposit yet then you can’t possibly provide the details of the protection as at that point in time it simply does not exist.

    Most schemes, including MyDeposits provide a version of the PI populated with all the personalised data and explains what has been complied with by the protection, some then show what they cannot attest to, but is probably in the Tenancy Agreement. This is so simple for Landlords so there is no excuse for not doing it properly, regardless of scheme.

    To embed the PI into a Tenancy Agreement is as absurd as trying to embed a Gas Safety Certificate that has not yet been carried out.

    This is not nuclear physics for Landlords, all they have to is have a series of processes where they take a deposit prior to handing over the keys, the protection can all be done online and the system will produce a PI as a PDF as part of registering the deposit. They then print that PDF out or send it using a digital signature service which records the Tenant receiving it. So this can work just as easily for Landlords who live abroad as in the UK, which all brings me to the point of there being no excuse for failure to do things properly as far as PI is concerned.

    It is even easier for Agents who usually have the insurance based schemes and just add another name, although some of the largest Agents in London get this wrong at times.

    I do find it funny that the Landlord in this case might have been better off just saying they posted it, at least until the second appeal of the case below is heard!!

    https://nearlylegal.co.uk/2024/05/service-of-prescribed-documents-deemed-or-actual/

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    • Giles Peaker

      I think providing the PI in separate ‘bits’ is arguably a different matter (and technically possible within the regulations), though it does carry risks of getting it wrong. Some parts could be given prior to protection (though after receipt of deposit!) and some, necessarily, after protection. But safest is to do in one chunk after protection, as you say.

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  4. Matthew Brown

    Good afternoon Giles

    Do you know if anyone obtained a copy of the transcript of this hearing and/or judgment in the end? I appreciate it will become a moot point (eventually) but I’ve got one we are running on this exact point currently.

    Many thanks!

    Reply

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