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Rent arrears management – boring title, excellent report

Is it too much to hope that – finally – the Government might take steps to ameliorate and / or prevent the use of Ground 8?

During the passage of the Housing and Regeneration Act 2008, the Government gave a commitment to look again at the use of inter alia, Ground 8 in the social housing sector.

A group of scholars was assembled for this purpose: Pawson, Sosenko, Cowan, Croft, Cole and Hunter and, they have now reported. I suggest everyone reads “rent arrears management practices in the housing assocation sector” because, frankly, it is an impressive piece of work, detailing historic, current (and hinting at future) trends.

The authors surveyed all housing associations in England, with some 70% responding to the questions raised. Six particular housing associations were chosen to provide detailed case studies and 106 individual eviction files were considered. The headlines are:

(a) mean rent arrears have been falling across the sector, down to 5.3% of collectable rent in the three years to 2007-08. Traditional associations tended to have higher rates of arrears than those involving stock transfer;

(b) housing benefit claimants have – generally – benefited from improved efficiencies in HB administration, with the average number of days to process a new HB claim down to 25, from 33. However, more than a quarter of associations admitted to having issued proceedings in order to pressure the local authority to process a claim;

(c) the rate of rent arrears evictions fell to 2007-08, but experienced a slight increase in 2008-09. Eviction rates varied across the country, with the Midlands having the highest rates and London the lowest;

(d) the majority of associations treated rent arrears recovery as a “specialist” area with staff who, well, specialised in recovery of such monies. Almost half of associations also employ specialist in-house welfare benefit advice staff to assist tenants;

(e) around 25% of associations admitted using Ground 8, although more than 50% of associations in London used it. The most common reason for using Ground 8 was the level of the arrears or where a tenant fails to make contact with the association to discuss the situation.

The report concludes that, were Ground 8 to be abolished, it would not have a significant impact on the arrears carried by HAs.

One final point – could it be that the TSA has delayed in publishing this report? Some of the terminology and phraseology suggests to me that this was ready for publication towards the end of 2009.

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L & Q Change Practice on Ground 8

News has come our way (circuitously) of a change in practice by London and Quadrant on the use of Ground 8, the mandatory ground for possession on the basis of rent arrears in respect of assured tenancies, from 01 August. Apparently, they will now only use it in “exceptional circumstances” (eg abandonment). Maybe others will follow … and it will be interesting to see how this chimes with the TSA research on the use of Ground 8 which should be completed by now.

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Request for info – Ground 8

Ah, Ground 8. How we love it.

We have been asked by some researchers, who are investigating housing association rent arrears management as well as their use of Ground 8, if readers would get in touch with them if they have experience of RSLs using Ground 8 and in what circumstances it is used.  The independent researchers have been asked by the Housing Corporation/Tenants Services Authority to find out particularly about the use of Ground 8 by RSLs as opposed to the use of other grounds for possession, as well as other rent arrears management strategies which might be adopted by RSLs.  They would be particularly interested in any anecdotal evidence, which would assist them in drafting a national questionnaire to RSLs and follow-up detailed case study work with RSLs.

They can be contacted c/o d.s.cowan@bris.ac.uk  They have promised to let us have a free copy of the final report in return for this plug, which could well make interesting reading in view of existing guidance on the (non) use of ground 8.

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Comments on Weaver

Belated, I know, but this is the first chance I have had to really look at the judgment in Weaver (R) v London & Quadrant Housing Trust [2008] EWHC 1377 (Admin).

Ground 8 and Legitimate Expectation

First the substantive ground of challenge – that the use of Ground 8 mandatory possession claims by L&Q Housing Trust amounted to breach of the claimant’s legitimate expectation and/or convention rights.

This was based upon LQHT’s terms and conditions, which said that they would comply with the Housing Corporations regulations and guidance. Housing Corp guidance says that ‘before using Ground 8, associations should first pursue all other reasonable alternatives to recover the debt’. The Claimant argued that reasonable alternatives included agreement on paying arrears, money judgment, or discretionary possession claim on grounds 11 or 12. Seeking to avoid Postponed Possession Orders was, in effect, saying that the judicial discretion would not be properly exercised. LQHT’s practice, it was claimed, was solely to use Ground 8.

L&Q denied that they had a policy to only use Ground 8. That use of Ground 8 resulted in a high level of payment of arrears prior to hearing and was thus an effective tool. L&Q denied that the contractual term involved could give rise to legitimate expectation – it was a statement of intent or target duty. It was not specific enough to give rise to an expectation – the specific guidance was not prescriptive and the language vague. In any case, there was no evidence of reliance.

L&Q said they had pursued all reasonable alternatives in this case, and use of grounds 11 or 12 prior to the use of ground 8 could not be considered to be a required reasonable alternative.

On the facts of this case, where there was a history of substantial and repeated defaults on agreements, the Court found that L&Q was entitled not to consider using ground 11 or 12.

Moreover, the Court found that the wording of the guidance was too broad to allow solely the claimant’s interpretation and, as the passage in the terms and conditions was not contended to be contractually binding, it could not be treated as having the qualities that would justify enforcing it as a legitimate expectation, particularly as there was no evidence that the Claimant was even aware of the term.

The claim failed.

Comment

I think L&Q were, to some extent fortunate in the challenge they faced. Legitimate expectation was always going to be difficult to establish on the back of Housing Corp guidance. I was rather surprised to see it as the sole ground of challenge. I suspect that L&Q also managed to obfuscate their actual practice somewhat in evidence. Certainly what was put forward in evidence differs from what tenant-side advisors encounter. But there we are.

There may be enough in the specifics of this case to distinguish it in future, as LQHT’s behaviour in regard to this specific tenant clealry shaped the Court’s attitude to the overall challenge – there had been repeated attempts to recover arrears and come to agreements, as well as repeated NSPs, sufficient to bolster LQHT’s claim that this was a weapon of last resort.

There may also be further evidence on L&Q’s use of ground 8 that may support challenges on other bases. I don’t think that this one ends the JR and ground 8 possibilities.

Subject to Judicial Review

More significant in the broader scheme of things, of course, is that L&Q were found to be a Public Authority amenable to judicial review in its housing function.

L&Q’s argument was that they were not a public authority. While certain functions were certainly public, such as its statutory function in relation to anti-social behaviour orders, or specific statutory delegations by local housing authorities, the main function of managing and allocating its own housing stock was not public.

Public funding grants were received but this was not determinative of public function. Provision of housing is not a public function like provision of education or social care. Moreover, the relationship between Claimant and LQHT was contractual, which was at the core of R v Servite Houses, ex p Goldsmith [2001] LGR 55, as approved in YL v Birmingham City Council [2007] 3 WLR 112. RSLs have private law status and being subject to detailed regulation does not point to them being public authorities, as found in YL v Birmingham.

LQHT argued that even if allocation was a public function, the termination of tenancy was not. it was a management decision governed by contract. Since the decision in Peabody Housing Association Ltd v Green (1978) 38 P&CR 644, only Poplar Housing and Regeneration Community Association Ltd v Donoghue [2002] QB 48 had suggested that termination of a tenancy by an RSL could be a public function, and Poplar Housing turned very much on its specific facts.

The Claimant argued that Peabody was prior to the explainsion of Judicial Review and Servite was decided prior to the introduction of the HRA. The Claimant applied YL v Birmingham and argued that LQHT was carrying out a overnmental function, the management and allocation of stste-subsidised housing (cf Novoseletskiy v Ukraine (2006) 46 EHRR 53). LQHT received substantial capital grants from public funds. RSLs were established under the Housing Act 1996 in order to deliver affordable housing and funded by Government to that purpose. Management of housing, including the setting of rents, is subject to the Housing Corp guidance.

The Claimant also pointed out the LQHT irself allocates and manages public housing resources in the public interest, albeit not strictly by delegation of functions, but Strasbourg case law on delegation of powers (e.g. Wos v Poland) was relevant. LQHT was entrusted with public funds and required to use them in the public interest. Unlike Southern Cross in YL, it is non-profit-making and not acting out of private, commercial motivations.

Deciding to grant or terminate tenancies are therefore decisions concerning the allocation of public housing resources.

The Claimant also argued that providing housing to priority applicants under the LA allocation scheme was pursuant to s.8 Housing Act 1996 and a duty under s.170 HA 1996. The Court found this misconceived, a duty to co-operate under s.170 is not a statutory duty to grant a tenancy.

Likewise, the Court ignored arguments on the government accepting that RSLs were ‘bodies governed by public law’ for the purposes of EU directives on procurement. The government’s view did not determine the position and EU law was not Convention or human rights law.

The Court found that LQHT was a public authority in its housing function, citing the following reasons:

  • LQHT is different to an ordinary commercial business by the nature of its activities and the contexts in which it operates.
  • LQHT is non-profit-making charity acting for the benefit of the community, so lacks the private and commercial features that feated in YL v Birmingham.
  • LQHT operates in the social rented sector which is not merely subject to detailed regulation (pace Southern Cross in YL) but is permeated by state control and influence with a view to meeting the Government’s aims for affordable housing and in which RSLs work beside local authorities and can be said in a real sense to take their place,
  • Control and influence is exerted through the Housing Corporation. While stautory guidance is non-binding, there is clear indirect pressure on RSLs to comply. The extent of control and influence being exampled by the approach towards implementation of policy on rent setting and the general statements in the Code of Guidance.
  • Particularly important – the nature and extent of public subsidy of LQHT, in common with other RSLs. In particular, the receipt of capital grants, esepcially social housing grants under s.18 HA 1996. Very large sums are involved. That they are for particular developments, rather than block grants, makes no odds. The funds are directed towards increasing social housing stock and are one means by which the state accomplishes this. While private funding is also important and RSLs aren’t the only receipient of funds, LQHTs business as a whole is heavily subsidised by the state due to the role played in implementing policy. A clear case of “the injection of capital or subsidy into an organisation in return for undertaking a non-commercial role or activity of general public interest (YL v Birmingham at 105).”
  • Also relevant is that a ’significant’ proportion – 10% – of LHQT’s housing stock was ex-local authority following voluntary transfer. While clearly not the same as Poplar Housing, which was formed for the specific purpose of stock transfer, this still reflected the fact that RSLs are performing functions of the same type as local authorities.
  • The duty of co-operation with Local Authorities under s.170 HA 1996 means that RSLs don’t have a purely commercial relation with local authorities, but operate under a statutory framework. Over half LQHT’s new lettings were nominations from LAs.
  • That serving a notice to quit was not a statutory power but a private law right did not prevent an RSL being a public authority. If allocation is a public function, it would be wrong to separate out ‘management’ including termination as private. Allocation and management are part of a single function.

For these reasons LQHT is a public authority in the meaning of s.6(3)(b) Human Rights Act 1998.

If it is a public authority for the purposes of the HRA, then it should be equally amenable to judicial review on conventional public law grounds.

Comment

I don’t think that this list should be taken as a set of necessary conditions for public authority status. Clearly some elements were more persuasive to the Court than others. For instance – the ex-local authority housing stock point. This is clearly a different point to that made in Poplar Housing, as here it is, in effect, simply further support for the idea that RSLs are performing the same type of housing function as local authorities. So, I can’t see how much, or indeed whether, ex-local authority housing stock is in possession of an RSL being a crucial determinant for their status as public authority. The main point is surely the level of public funding/subsidy and the level of state guidance/direction involved.

It would be difficult, I suspect, for any RSL to argue that its position is so significantly different to that of LQHT as to not be a public authority. But no doubt some will try.

While the headline is susceptibility to Judicial Review, it is also worth noting that, at almost the same moment that an amendment to the Housing and Regeneration bill to make RSLs subject to the HRA failed, this judgment states clearly that, in their housing functions, RSLs are indeed subject to the HRA.

A few months ago, this might not have been a big deal, but post McCann, it may turn out to be significant. Proportionality in the mandatory possession process anyone?

I know that a number of RSLs have been quietly settling prospective JR claims, precisely to avoid a full hearing on their status as public authorities. I suspect L&Q are not very popular at the moment with their fellow RSLs. There will no doubt be an appeal of that finding, which also opens the prospect of a cross appeal by the Claimant. Interesting times.

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L&Q v Weaver flash

Judgment just out

Weaver (R) v London & Quadrant Housing Trust [2008] EWHC 1377 (Admin)

Full notes tomorrow, but the headline is:

L&Q is a public authority in its housing function for the purposes of Judicial Review.

Use of ground 8 possession claims is not a breach of legitimate expectation.

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Friday News round-up

The debate on the Housing and Regeneration Bill on 31 March saw clauses on both Ground 8 Possession and tolerated trespassers put forward by the Government.

Clause 9 appears to stop RSLs using ground 8 at all and to introduce a reasonableness defence in general for ground 8 where housing benefit delay or failures have meant that some rent is in arrears, providing that the delay or failure is ‘not referable to any wilful act or omission of the tenant’. I can see a lot of cases on ‘wilful’, right off.

In moving the new clause on tolerated trespassers, The Junior Housing Minister Iain Wright said:

The new clauses and amendments deal with the tolerated trespasser doctrine. They will resolve the problem for existing tolerated trespassers, and will ensure that no tolerated trespassers are created in future. The changes will apply to secure, assured, introductory and demoted tenancies.

The full ‘replacement tenancy’ clauses are on this page of Hansard.

Both clauses were passed on this reading. All good stuff so far.

Iain Wright also announced a working group on current RSL use of Ground 8, in the context of it being against Housing Corporation guidance:

I have therefore asked my officials to convene a working group meeting with the key stakeholders, including Shelter, Citizens Advice, the National Housing Federation, the Council of Mortgage Lenders and the Housing Corporation to examine those concerns and report back to me by summer, recommending options for a way forward. In light of the regulatory framework that we are putting in place, I am particularly interested in the role that Oftenant could play in addressing the problem for the registered social landlord sector. The reformed system of regulation, which will give a stronger voice to tenants to bring issues of concern to the regulator and a more targeted system of regulatory action, seems a good approach to dealing with the matter.

London & Quadrant, we are looking at you now…

Elsewhere, the Housing Minister, has announced that the ‘debate’ is over (concerning her idiotic ideas on re-introducing workhouses/setting employment-seeking conditions on council tenancies) and it is time to implement them. It wasn’t much of a debate, really. She came up with the idea and everyone else, apart from David Blunkett, said it was stupid.

Flint appears to have adopted the face-saving means of back-tracking, by appointing a working group to come up with implementation ideas. The chair of the working group, Jane Slowley has made abundantly clear that sanctions and punishments attached to tenancy do not form part of her thinking. So, there will be some kind of proposals for employment support and training linked to social tenancies, but no lunatic sanctions. Flint will say she has moved matters on, the rest of us will breathe a sigh of relief.

And in the bears and woodland based sanitary facilities category, Councils are found to ignore their housing duties once they have flogged off their housing stock to Housing Associations.

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DDA and mandatory possession

S v Floyd [2008] EWCA Civ 201 is a Court of Appeal case in which the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 is considered in relation to a mandatory Ground 8 possession claim by a private landlord.

In some ways, there is nothing particularly surprising in the case – the Court found that the DDA was not engaged as there was no relation between the appellant’s disability (OCD in this case) and the rent arrears. No DDA defence had been raised at first instance, nor should it have been ‘obvious’ to the Judge that there may be one. In fact the appellant had given specific reasons for withholding rent to the first instance Court that were not connected to the disability.

On that basis, there was no need to inquire further into discrimination (including comparator) or justification.

So far, nothing out of step with Lewisham v Malcolm. As I have always maintained, against some scaremongers, Malcolm did not mean that a possession claim against a tenant with a disability was discriminatory per se. ‘Relation’ of disability to reason for eviction is a real test. As I also suggested in discussing Malcolm, appeals raising a DDA defence for the first time would get a tough hearing.

However, there is an issue raised by the Court that is of significance, but to my mind not adequately considered or argued. Does a DDA defence – (presumably ‘defence’ in the terms of Romano, rather than a DDA claim) apply to mandatory possession proceedings.

The sole judgment distinguishes Malcolm as follows:

  1. As for Malcolm, although neither judge had the benefit of its guidance, as it was decided subsequent to their decisions, a number of points may be made showing that it does not govern this case.
  2. First, the mandatory provisions of section 7(3) of the 1988 Act, which give the tenant a statutory right to a possession order against the tenant who is more than 8 weeks in arrears with the rent, did not apply in Malcolm. The local authority relied on its contractual right to possession.

Nothing further is said on this point, as the Court concludes that no disability discrimination arose in this case. But at 71 the Court asks the House of Lords to answer the urgent need for clarification on the scope of the 1995 Act.

I don’t see how Malcolm can be so simply distinguished, certainly without any further reasoning. I suspect that the Court is complicating issues for itself by casting disability discrimination as a ‘Defence’ to a possession claim, particularly in relation to circumstances where there can be no defence by statute (mandatory grounds).

Romano said that an argument of discrimination could be raised as a defence, under resonableness, in discretionary possession claims (at least against secure tenants), but this has led to it being conceived of as a defence per se, where Romano actually said that this was a matter of practical efficiency, rather than having to mount a counterclaim of unlawfulness.

Malcolm thoroughly confused matters by discussing disability discrimination as a ‘defence’ of unlawfulness against a non-discretionary possession order. In some ways, it would have been clearer if Malcolm had said that in such circumstances it should be conceived of as a counterclaim of unlawfulness, although, in practice, formally making the counterclaim would surely be unneccessary.

So when, as here, the Court is troubled by the idea of the DDA adding a defence to a ‘lawful’ mandatory claim, where statute actively rules out a defence, one answer is that the DDA doesn’t add a defence. It adds a counterclaim that the mandatory claim isn’t lawful, which, for reasons of practical utility is treated as a defence in hearing the claim.

There were some other issues on the District Judge not adjourning the hearing – principally on the basis that an issue of the appellant’s capacity was raised. The Court of Appeal found that:

There was nothing before the District Judge to suggest that S did not or might not understand the comparatively simple and straightforward issues raised in the proceedings on which his input was likely to be necessary.

And there was nothing before the Court of Appeal to suggest lack of capacity, either.

The Court’s ‘Exceptional Circumstances’ power to adjourn even a mandatory possession claim was not considered or exercised by the DJ. The Court of Appeal said

i) Non-receipt of housing benefit was not an exceptional circumstance, North British Housing Association v Matthews [2004] EWCA Civ 1736,;

ii) No application was made to the DJ for an adjournment on exceptional circumstances.

And that was pretty much it. There may be a further case, Bernstein v Tate, on s.21 possessions soon. Malcolm is to be heard in the week of 28 April by the House of Lords.

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While waiting for Weaver…

I’m eagerly awaiting the judgment in R(Weaver) v London & Quadrant, but, in one of those quirks of synchronicity, Bailii has just put the Court of Appeal Judgment in Donoghue v Poplar Housing & Regeneration Community Association Ltd & Anor [2001] EWCA Civ 595 up online. It made an interesting re-read, thinking about the issues in Weaver.

I don’t want to rehearse the Donoghue arguments in their entirety. We know the basis of an intertwined history and provision of temporary accommodation post homeless application that the Court held up as the reason for finding public function, and I doubt the HRA arguments are of much use to Weaver, despite (or rather because) concerning mandatory possession (see below). But while browsing through, a few paras caught my eye. For example, para 46:

Many local authorities have transferred some or all of their housing stock to one or more RSLs. This has happened so far as Poplar is concerned. Poplar was created for the purpose of taking over part of the housing stock of the borough of Tower Hamlets [...] Mr Brockway states that as a matter of policy the Corporation has always asked RSLs to grant the most secure form of tenure available to its tenants. This will usually be achieved by granting periodic tenancies of which possession can only be achieved on discretionary grounds. Such tenancies are accepted by Mr Luba as providing the necessary protection which he submits is necessary to comply with Article 8. The Corporation requires that if a tenant has an assured tenancy, then an order for possession can only be sought if it is reasonable to seek the order.

So, the use of Ground 8 against previously secure tenants who had been part of a stock transfer is…? Here Tower Hamlets ‘asked the RSL to give the most secure tenancies’, but could this be seen as a requirement on stock transfer tenancies as in Jan Luba’s point? Donoghue doesn’t say so, but apparently because the Court was prepared to accept that an assured tenancy meant a reasonableness criterea for possession was inevitable. But this crops up in the consideration of public function, not of Art 8.

On the other hand, as we now know, the Corporation doesn’t ‘require’ that it is reasonable to seek the order, it merely recommends it, which devalues this point somewhat.

On Public Function, the Court of Appeal said at para 66:

[...] We emphasise that this does not mean that all Poplar’s functions are public. We do not even decide that the position would be the same if the defendant was a secure tenant. The activities of housing associations can be ambiguous. For example, their activities in raising private or public finance could be very different from those that are under consideration here. The raising of finance by Poplar could well be a private function.

Some things have changed since Donoghue, for example, the classification of HAs as public bodies by the Housing Corporation for VAT and EU procurement law perhaps makes the ‘raising finance’ example in Donoghue look a little different, and recasts the balancing of private and public carried out in that case.

I don’t know if Weaver involved an HRA challenge to Ground 8. If it did, frankly I would expect it to go the same way as the challenge to s.21 in Donoghue.

However, if Weaver establishes public function sufficient for JR, I would personally have thought that a challenge to a policy of using Ground 8 would have a better shot, on the basis of, say,

i) unreasonableness (failure to address circumstances, failure to meet the stated aims of the policy – recouping of rent, etc.) and

ii) fettering of discretion (a policy to use ground 8 on arrears over 8 weeks fetters the available discretion to use ground 11 & 12 or not to bring a possession claim),

with the Housing Corp Guidance to the fore in both.

And, perhaps, with an eye to Donoghue, a citing of Lord Woolf in para 46 on the expectation of reasonableness in a possession claim for an assured tenancy. After all, Ground 8, if pleaded as the sole ground of possession, not only avoids the Court’s consideration of reasonableness, but also of whether the landlord has followed the pre-action protocol on rent arrears.

We’ll see. Better minds than mine have spent considerably longer on it than I have.

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Follow-ups

There have been some very interesting comments on posts from the last week, and further news on the stories, making a catch up post worthwhile.

In no particular order…

I am delighted that Tony Fearnley commented on the Helena Housing v Molyneaux & Mower post. Tony, whom a quick google reveals is from Stephensons Solicitors, acted for Molyneaux and Mower (good work there) and also brings news that Knowsley v White has been joined with L&Q v Ansell for hearing in the House of Lords, listed for 3 days in October 2008. Helena Housing and Payne v Young is getting a lot of attention at the moment (Garden Court North have an article out -PDF). I have been told that the presiding Judge at one of my local county courts has said at a hearing (regrettably not a trial on the point) that he found Payne v Young very interesting indeed, that he would be bringing it to the attention of the other Judges at the Court and hoped it would feature in Ansell in the Lords. I also know a few solicitors who have pounced on the case and are actively using it already. I really want the time to have a proper look at Payne v Young, but it won’t be for a few days, at least.

Colin Yeo comments on Not for Profits in trouble, post fixed fee, mentioning the difficult circumstances of the South West London Law Centre. (Guardian story). The Gazette today has an article giving more detail, with a survey suggesting 20% of Law Centres are in major trouble and a further 49% in serious debt (article not available online yet). Discussions about amending transitional provisions are apparently taking place, but are late and may not be enough. This is very, very serious indeed. The LSC’s helpful comment was that they ‘had seen no evidence that law centres take on more complex work than other providers’ and ‘fixed fees were an important part of achieving value for money’. Yeah yeah, whatever.

Starting from my post on an unclear mention in Inside Housing, it quickly became clear via the comments that R (Weaver) v London & Quadrant has been a full-on JR application on grounds that Housing Associations (or L&Q at least) are public Mauthorities exercising a public function as landlord, and that a policy of using Ground 8 is unlawful (Thanks to J). The substantive hearing took place in late February. I wait with trembling anticipation.

Lastly and considerably less seriously, I hear there is some speculation being bandied as to my secret identity. Heavens above, how immensely flattering. I blush with pleasure. But I am a creature of mystery and shadow, at least in my Fritz Lang-addled imagination, and must perforce remain in the misty darkness…

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Housing Associations and public function to be tested?

[Edit 30 June 08. The judgment in the following case is now out. For a detailed comment, see this post.]

According to Inside Housing, London & Quadrant are fighting an application for Judicial Review in Susan Weaver v London & Quadrant Housing Trust. It appears that the applicant is making the full-on challenge – that Housing Associations are public bodies – as a defence to a ground 8 possession.

This will be very interesting. Clearly, housing associations can be capable of being public bodies where fulfilling the function of a public body. But the circumstances in which that might be said to be the case have been highly arguable, and in any case appeared to be quite severely limited by the implications of the care home decision in YL v Birmingham in the House of Lords. What isn’t clear from the Inside Housing note is the circumstances in this case. Is it transferred local authority housing stock, for example?

I would have thought that YL v Birmingham would have put a strict limit on any attempt to have housing associations be taken as public bodies tout court, so more details would be good.

Needless to say, L&Q are apparently aiming to fight this tooth and claw. As one of the largest housing associations to use ground 8 in possession claims frequently, I’m not surprised that they are. The reasons for bringing ground 8 possession claims would all too often be susceptible to judicial review.

Much more, of course, when this one reaches a public result.

Inside Housing’s news feed is currently broken on my feeds page and the feed fails to validate, all because of the Q in L&Q. I smell a conspiracy…

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