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> <channel><title>Comments on: Adverse possession of a highway</title> <atom:link href="http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/</link> <description>Housing law news and comment</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:56:35 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: G</title><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/#comment-408</link> <dc:creator>G</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:06:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/?p=1642#comment-408</guid> <description>It will be interesting to see if the Appeal court is brave enough to tackle an issue previously fudged by one Lord Justice. An opportunity exists to put right a ridiculous piece of legislation in the form of a Local Government Act that only allows Councils as public bodies and not private individuals to apply to the courts to extinguish highway rights.
The administration of justice is all about striking a balance between public and private rights and a nonsensical situation exists whereby a private individual cannot legally challenge certain public rights. Current UK law in respect of adverse possession against the highway is more akin to the judicial systems of the eastern European countries after WW2. The falling out of use and changes in law that precluded private individuals from applying to the courts for writ of “Ad Quod Damnum” to stop up the highway means that the scales of justice have been quite wrongly and permanently tipped in favour of public rights to the exclusion of all and any private rights.
Possession is possession and there is no tangible difference between securing real property illegally via adverse possession or via legal prescription. The only difference is that transfer of the former is without a contractual arrangement. It cannot be in the public interest for a person applying for first registration of land to face eviction and given an alternative housing provision at public expense. Just because a person’s home is sitting on highway waste, not a past or present traveller’s route to cause an obstruction, why should their caravan, albeit not subject to planning and to which no complaint has been made, be destroyed. The Human Rights Act issues here probably direct that another ludicrous legal cost burden exists for the taxpayer.
There is no reason why an application for adverse possession cannot consider a land transfer mechanism that extinguishes highway rights and enacts a new title if encroachment from an existing title is not taking place. The notion that the highway estate automatically assumes the greatest title and that it is not possible to create a new lower class of title out of it is bonkers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see if the Appeal court is brave enough to tackle an issue previously fudged by one Lord Justice. An opportunity exists to put right a ridiculous piece of legislation in the form of a Local Government Act that only allows Councils as public bodies and not private individuals to apply to the courts to extinguish highway rights.</p><p>The administration of justice is all about striking a balance between public and private rights and a nonsensical situation exists whereby a private individual cannot legally challenge certain public rights. Current UK law in respect of adverse possession against the highway is more akin to the judicial systems of the eastern European countries after WW2. The falling out of use and changes in law that precluded private individuals from applying to the courts for writ of “Ad Quod Damnum” to stop up the highway means that the scales of justice have been quite wrongly and permanently tipped in favour of public rights to the exclusion of all and any private rights.</p><p>Possession is possession and there is no tangible difference between securing real property illegally via adverse possession or via legal prescription. The only difference is that transfer of the former is without a contractual arrangement. It cannot be in the public interest for a person applying for first registration of land to face eviction and given an alternative housing provision at public expense. Just because a person’s home is sitting on highway waste, not a past or present traveller’s route to cause an obstruction, why should their caravan, albeit not subject to planning and to which no complaint has been made, be destroyed. The Human Rights Act issues here probably direct that another ludicrous legal cost burden exists for the taxpayer.</p><p>There is no reason why an application for adverse possession cannot consider a land transfer mechanism that extinguishes highway rights and enacts a new title if encroachment from an existing title is not taking place. The notion that the highway estate automatically assumes the greatest title and that it is not possible to create a new lower class of title out of it is bonkers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John</title><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/#comment-407</link> <dc:creator>John</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:53:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/?p=1642#comment-407</guid> <description>Thanks Chris I will wait for the Psychic to get a message! I am not impatient! just not aware of the process and how long these things take?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris I will wait for the Psychic to get a message! I am not impatient! just not aware of the process and how long these things take?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris J</title><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/#comment-406</link> <dc:creator>Chris J</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:49:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/?p=1642#comment-406</guid> <description>John, as you know the hearing took place on Tuesday 24th and I&#039;m afraid you&#039;ll have to be patient because it may be a while before the judgment appears. Hopefully before the end of the year but could possibly creep into next year. NL will probably know before I do due to their amazing psychic powers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, as you know the hearing took place on Tuesday 24th and I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;ll have to be patient because it may be a while before the judgment appears. Hopefully before the end of the year but could possibly creep into next year. NL will probably know before I do due to their amazing psychic powers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John</title><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/#comment-405</link> <dc:creator>John</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:10:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/?p=1642#comment-405</guid> <description>Any news on the Judgement yet Chris or anyone?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any news on the Judgement yet Chris or anyone?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Marcin</title><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/#comment-404</link> <dc:creator>Marcin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:43:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/?p=1642#comment-404</guid> <description>If you want to keep track of it, you can try calling the appropriate court registry.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to keep track of it, you can try calling the appropriate court registry.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Marcin</title><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/#comment-403</link> <dc:creator>Marcin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:42:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/?p=1642#comment-403</guid> <description>I&#039;d add that with a strong claim, after-the-event insurance coupled with a CFA may help. Litigation funders may be available. Any competent solicitor can discuss funding options with you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d add that with a strong claim, after-the-event insurance coupled with a CFA may help. Litigation funders may be available. Any competent solicitor can discuss funding options with you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John</title><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/#comment-402</link> <dc:creator>John</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:15:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/?p=1642#comment-402</guid> <description>Thank&#039;s for the info NL I will wait with interest! It is a tricky one though!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank&#8217;s for the info NL I will wait with interest! It is a tricky one though!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NL</title><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/#comment-401</link> <dc:creator>NL</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:53:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/?p=1642#comment-401</guid> <description>John, as soon as there is a transcript of the case out, we will report it here - that won&#039;t be straight after the hearing though.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, as soon as there is a transcript of the case out, we will report it here &#8211; that won&#8217;t be straight after the hearing though.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John</title><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/#comment-400</link> <dc:creator>John</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:43:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/?p=1642#comment-400</guid> <description>Thanks Chris can I keep track of the case on line?
I have not engaged a solicitor yet! if the ruling is in favour of Mr Smith I can register the small piece of land, otherwise it will be the stopping up order waiting 12 years and the piece of land during this time in theory it would belong to no one and if I sell my house it will cause a problem!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris can I keep track of the case on line?<br
/> I have not engaged a solicitor yet! if the ruling is in favour of Mr Smith I can register the small piece of land, otherwise it will be the stopping up order waiting 12 years and the piece of land during this time in theory it would belong to no one and if I sell my house it will cause a problem!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Johnson</title><link>http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2009/05/adverse-possession-of-a-highway/#comment-399</link> <dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:22:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/?p=1642#comment-399</guid> <description>For those like John interested in Mr Smith&#039;s case it is floating with a one day time estimate over two days in the Court of Appeal on either Nov 24th or 25th.
John, thanks for sending me the judgment in your case. Please inform your solicitor or adviser of the above.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those like John interested in Mr Smith&#8217;s case it is floating with a one day time estimate over two days in the Court of Appeal on either Nov 24th or 25th.<br
/> John, thanks for sending me the judgment in your case. Please inform your solicitor or adviser of the above.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
